Re: New Scout

#11
phixion wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:43 pm
I've played archers a lot during my time in DAoC and to me, archers are just as good/bad as they were in classic DAoC.

Rangers are still the strongest IMO, they can compete in melee with assassins at higher RR.

You are not going to get on with Scout if you think that has a better chance than a Ranger, they are utterly gimp in melee no matter how many points you spend in it.


Wasn't really expecting to do any better on scout than on my luri ranger.
But not every sin has purge up all the time, and vs my luri...4 sec stun...why even purge it...
But 9 sec slam. Either you purge or I have a decent shot of finishing you with bow. That is the difference I see.

Archers are not near as good as they were on classic. Obviously you don't remember PD? True sight? Dodger? Not to mention detection range was still in favor of assassins with detect hidden but ranger had much more than 125 range, so I almost never took a PA unless it was from adds. And I can side stun 95% of the pop here in 2 secs. With that and purge on 30 min RUT, I always was a threat to assassin's. There are so many differences here compared to classic I could fill pages upon pages like some others have already done. So to just wrap it up, sorry man archers are crap compared to classic at this time.
Ceremon - 50 Luri Ranger - Shelved
Cerebeboned - 50 BD Farm
Cereberunnin - Skald - On hold
Cerebeblades - 50 Shar Ranger
Cerebeblind - Scout - made you use purge! HA!

Re: New Scout

#12
I disagree about Scouts being terrible in melee. I think People are trying to build snipe specs and thinking they are going two two shot people like live. No. No. No. The damage from bow does not seem to be on par with how live was (imo) annnnd people are a lot smarter, know to immediately /face when getting hit. The days of sniping someone and watch them run around like a chicken are over.

I absolutely hate my ranger here. I think it was my least favorite 50 I have (out of the 10 I do have). I think it would probably get better at higher RR, but meh. I think it was one of the classes I rolled early on when I started and I cranked up Dex, thinking, ehhh I'll make a BG snipe class. It was great when BGs were active. After leveling and temping BM/Druid/Animist then BD, Healer, Zerk, moved to Alb and started a scout from 1 and leveled it completely solo.

I picked Saracen and went +15 Dex +10 qui (I may change this if I ever get the chance).

It's been rough, it's not a great class. I knew what I was getting into when I started it and set expectations low, so when I do win those 1v1s verse assassins, you feel pretty good.

I messaged any scout over rr5 and asked questions. Most never replied, some replied with some really great feed back. Bax especially. Most nights I'll run with a friend I've been gaming with for a long time on his infil (and mostly because our Visible group/guild got burned out and left). We had a 5v2 stealth battle last night where I never fired a shot and we managed to take down two before we died.

My current spec is as follows:
39 Bow
34 Stealth
39 Pierce
42 Sheild

the thing that you have to understand right off the bat as an archer here, you spend about 30% of the time shooting your bow and 70% meleeing. That tells me right there what you need to focus on. Melee.

People think slam when they think of scout. How about Mastery of Blocking and Aug Dex? Guard for when you duo or small man? Ignore Pain?

I hit Realm Rank 5 last night and honestly, as terrible as alb as a player base and community is, this is probably my second favorite class I have played here. at RR4+ I was going about 50/50 (maybe 40/60) verse assassins 1v1. I also got absolutely shit on by an RR4 SB last night after blowing Purge, IP3, Heal Barrel, Heart of Legion Heal. He then proceeded to kill an info that tried to jump in and was killed only by a small man that showed up. On the flip side of that, I've beaten rr5+ NS/SB many times. Skill, RNG, Items have a lot to do with it.

One of my biggest gripes is about Penetrating Arrow. It's about as useful as two tits on a bull. Yet, assasins break any bubble, get dots,poison,disease, snare AND CAN DISENGAGE AND HIDE on a 15 minute timer. Don't ever shoot a caster with half a brain and a pet.

The great thing about this class? It's win win. If you kill someone LOLOL U GOT KILLED BY A SCOUT. If you lose LOL Scout. I'm exited to see how this class pans out at like RR6+. MOB5, Audex II, IP3, Purge 2, LW, Tireless Currently.

I could be doing this completely back asswards, but that's the beauty of it and I'm having fun, so who cares.

Re: New Scout

#13
Scouts doesnt suck, althought they are 1 trick ponny with the 42 spec. As soon as assasin has heal pot and legion up, doesnt matter if he has purge o not, unless you jump 1º will win the fight.

The above poster states that is 50% with assasins.. i dont think thats real... i think is about 20/80.

At low rr ranger > Scout , maybe at higher with some mob etc... will be nice, but atm the DPS dealt in melee by the ranger is much higher than the scout.

Re: New Scout

#14
My Scout is Close to r5 got purge ip and moblock so Just defense. You can stand against Assasins Up top youre RR ..Higher ..purge Up....No Chance youre Ras only make YouTube die slower 😂

And AS already Said you wont kill a sin within youre stun and Most enemys will Turn around and be oor before even Close so death .

Anyone tryed 44 weapon 50 schield yet 😂
Gimme respeccs ill try

Re: New Scout

#15
Khogor wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:30 am
My Scout is Close to r5 got purge ip and moblock so Just defense. You can stand against Assasins Up top youre RR ..Higher ..purge Up....No Chance youre Ras only make YouTube die slower 😂

And AS already Said you wont kill a sin within youre stun and Most enemys will Turn around and be oor before even Close so death .

Anyone tryed 44 weapon 50 schield yet 😂
Gimme respeccs ill try
i did in beta (44thrust 42 shield 27 bow) and used the 27 snare from the 44 thrust style... was really funny to steal their purge and still kill assassins

Re: New Scout

#16
mhenfhis wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:51 am
Scouts doesnt suck, althought they are 1 trick ponny with the 42 spec. As soon as assasin has heal pot and legion up, doesnt matter if he has purge o not, unless you jump 1º will win the fight.

The above poster states that is 50% with assasins.. i dont think thats real... i think is about 20/80.

At low rr ranger > Scout , maybe at higher with some mob etc... will be nice, but atm the DPS dealt in melee by the ranger is much higher than the scout.
I did change that to 40/60. There are some pretty terrible NS/SBs. I'm sure I'm inflating the number a bit to make myself feel better :)

I'll start keeping track. All of my RAs need to be up in order to even hit 40/60 and my Str/Con D/q items need to be up as well. I'm going to test Str/Con debuff as well. It seemed to help on my ranger quite a bit.

I have a 30% block chance at the moment, I'll have to look at evade chance.

Re: New Scout

#17
How ist the blockchance calculaded ?
Skillpoint= 0,5% ? + Moblock? How ist dex affecting it?


Since Bow Dam doesnt seem to skale with more skill points , the 44 weapon version only looses rapidfire.