Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#111
Siouxsie wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:50 pm
teiloh wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:48 am
If you're a BD or a SM or possibly a Ment with a pet.
Incorrect. Minstrel will aoe mezz pets and BD is sitting duck. Or, Minstrel will just SOS away like a coward.
You'd have to be dumber than a bag of shit to not be able to interrupt a 5s cast Minstrel mez

Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#113
teiloh wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:04 am

You'd have to be dumber than a bag of shit to not be able to interrupt a 5s cast Minstrel mez

That's assuming you SEE the minstrel to interrupt them in the first place. It's not hard to flank someone when you have speed 6, and not everyone mouse-pans constantly like a paranoid tweaker.
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Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#114
teiloh wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:05 am
Nezoic wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:08 pm
I'm fine with them, just allow all other pet class.... to charm purple pets and have those pets break them out of any CC.... problem solved?
Sure, give Minstrels 500+ DPS from range then

Mincers can double shout-nuke you in under a second for almost 400 damage, on top of their melee and what the pet hits you for. So, technically, they already do have around 500+ DPS burst.

And chain armor, and speed 6, and a stackable ablative, and an instant stun, and a mez that can be cast on the move, and an AoE mez, plus power and health regen chants to top off quickly between fights. Oh, and they can be fucking invisible if they want to while they climb keep walls.

That's all on top of access to a red con+ pet. It's always been a bullshit class, the last thing they need is more stuff.
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Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#117
daytonchambers wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm
teiloh wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:04 am

You'd have to be dumber than a bag of shit to not be able to interrupt a 5s cast Minstrel mez

That's assuming you SEE the minstrel to interrupt them in the first place. It's not hard to flank someone when you have speed 6, and not everyone mouse-pans constantly like a paranoid tweaker.
PRECISELY.

Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#118
Loki wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:20 pm
Frost Stallion procs for close to 200, show me a proc like that on any weapon.
Ellyl Champ hits for 233.
Ellyl Sage pet heals for 250.

BD pets don't even heal for 250 at a time.

Greatly imbalanced, however no Phoenix GM or Dev has probably bothered to read this thread and it's full of lovely people (aka pls watch your language. Greetings Uthred) defending Minstrels... so it'll probably never get resolved.

Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#119
Siouxsie wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:30 pm


Ellyl Champ hits for 233.
Ellyl Sage pet heals for 250.

BD pets don't even heal for 250 at a time.

Greatly imbalanced, however no Phoenix GM or Dev has probably bothered to read this thread and it's full of lovely people (aka pls watch your language. Greetings Uthred) defending Minstrels... so it'll probably never get resolved.
BD's also have 4 pets to pick and choose from. BD pets are grey con/green con/blue con, not orange con to a lvl 50 like an Ellyl.
Not sure this should be an argument, as BD's are just as broken here if looking at the greater meta.

(I'm not defending minstrel's pets by any means, but I don't see this particular argument as a good one)

Re: Nerf Minstrel pets

#120
Siouxsie wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:29 pm
daytonchambers wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:53 pm
teiloh wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:04 am

You'd have to be dumber than a bag of shit to not be able to interrupt a 5s cast Minstrel mez

That's assuming you SEE the minstrel to interrupt them in the first place. It's not hard to flank someone when you have speed 6, and not everyone mouse-pans constantly like a paranoid tweaker.
PRECISELY.
This would go for any class moving at speed 6. Would you rather the minstrel has speed 6 and insta mez like the skald and bard?