Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#111
imweasel wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:37 pm
Well I'm going to try this spec:

RR3

37 stealth
39 blades
13 bow
20 CD
50 PF

See how it goes...

*Edit to add*
Maybe I'm missing something, but to get CD and PF that high, you are not going to be spec 52 in blades. Not even close. Is that going to seriously affect damage variance and/or weapon skill?
You need to be high RR, like 8 or 9L. I have 33 blade because i have +19 in the skill.

Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#112
Something that everyone keeps missing here is that 52 comp Blades isn't the stopping point, it's the starting point for better damage. If you're going to use Blades styles then you need to get your Blades skill as high as possible. The only time you can comfortably rest at 52 comp Blades is if your CD skill is much higher and you're using CD styles for damage.
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Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#113
Cadebrennus wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:59 am
Something that everyone keeps missing here is that 52 comp Blades isn't the stopping point, it's the starting point for better damage. If you're going to use Blades styles then you need to get your Blades skill as high as possible. The only time you can comfortably rest at 52 comp Blades is if your CD skill is much higher and you're using CD styles for damage.
That's why I only use the stun and the side snare in blade :p

Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#115
watbrif wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:02 pm
If you run with the bg, how much melee power do you actually need?

Stealth 30
Pierce 34
CD 19
Bow 35
PF 48

Any thoughts?
If this is a pure BG spec then ya sure, but won't you have Druid buffs?
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Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#116
Cadebrennus wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:13 pm
watbrif wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:02 pm
If you run with the bg, how much melee power do you actually need?

Stealth 30
Pierce 34
CD 19
Bow 35
PF 48

Any thoughts?
If this is a pure BG spec then ya sure, but won't you have Druid buffs?
Yes, I've been thinking about this as well, but I usually don't like basing the spec on the availability of other classes. But I reckon the alternative would be a fairly standard 32/39/18/35/43? I'm not sure if I need the last damage add in a bow-spec leaning build. I'm intrigued by the melee spec, too - but I always assumed it would be fairly useless for BG?

Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#117
watbrif wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:39 pm
Cadebrennus wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:13 pm
watbrif wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:02 pm
If you run with the bg, how much melee power do you actually need?

Stealth 30
Pierce 34
CD 19
Bow 35
PF 48

Any thoughts?
If this is a pure BG spec then ya sure, but won't you have Druid buffs?
Yes, I've been thinking about this as well, but I usually don't like basing the spec on the availability of other classes. But I reckon the alternative would be a fairly standard 32/39/18/35/43? I'm not sure if I need the last damage add in a bow-spec leaning build. I'm intrigued by the melee spec, too - but I always assumed it would be fairly useless for BG?
You could push your melee really high at the expense of bow, or stealth, or PF, or any combination thereof, but honestly in a BG you'll be using melee primarily as melee CC and not really as primary melee DPS. In your situation I would go at least 46 PF for the DA, unless you're weird like me and use a DA charge instead. A DA charge combined with low PF (21 or 16) is pretty cool in that the damage spikes really high with bow, but the downside is the dip after the spike. Basically if in theory if you fired nonstop with a /use DA and low PF you'd have excellent damage 25% of the time and 'meh' damage the other 75% of the time. With a 46 PF spec you don't have to worry about it. With a 48 spec (as above in your suggestion) you can get a higher Dex/Qui buff than what typical RvR Druids spec for, but at the expense of a lot of points.

In short, make sure you get that damage add from somewhere, because it's pretty significant when using a 5.5 speed.bow.
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Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#119
gotwqqd wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:24 am
How would
35st
48 pf
18cd
39bl
24 arch
Be?
Depends on your purpose. I found 39 blades/ 18 cd with high pf to be pretty weak in melee damage. If you're going to be shooting things more often then I'd swap the stealth and archery, and just learn to use hard and soft cover to supplement your lower stealth. IMO it doesn't matter what an archer's stealth spec is, because you're going to be found by other stealthers regardless. 24 stealth is plenty to hide from Visis and doesn't affect your alpha attack other than a greater chance to unstealth when drawing your bow.
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Re: Post your Ranger spec!

#120
inoeth wrote:
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:30 pm
lmao, rear chain, when do you get it off as a ranger? like never.... but instead you lose either good buffs or CD
also "in the middle" CD spec i actually better than low CD spec, fact.
as a melee ranger it really depends on spreading your spec points to get the most dmg out of it, maximizing one spec line leads to being weak.
what does that mean?
you want to have:

medium to high weapon spec for better style bonus (39-44)
at least yellow buffs (d/q, dmg add)
as much as possible CD for increased off hand hit chance, which a) increases you swing speed b) off hand hit+dmg add=more dmg

so in the end you have something like

39-44 blade
40-46 pf
23-38 CD
35 stealth
12 bow

if you want to be more bow orientated

39 blade
18 CD
40-46 pf
27-35 bow
35 stealth
So
Is 35 bow worth the reduced benefits of pf line?

How about 24 bow/48pf?