daytonchambers wrote: ↑Fri 31 Jul 2020 6:38 PMpunahou wrote: ↑Fri 31 Jul 2020 6:00 PMso this is for PVE-- im not converend with PVP as Im have a hard time getting to 50; at which I can solo.
The journey to 50 on this server is terrible for assassins and bows. Adding good ae damage for pve only would allow these classes to get groups; or at least make soloing easier by allowing thse classes to kill multiple mobs
I have leveled five stealther characters to 50 on this server. Three in Midgard, and two in Hibernia. We do not need an aoe gimmick for pve any more than a light tank needs one.
Let me first say that yes some classes which make group leveling go much faster are more desirable than others, and buffs & heals will also be desired for pretty much the same reason, they make the process go faster. This issue is not unique to rogues, though.
I can't count how many times I saw a tank class leveling with a 2-hand weapon and refusing to spec or use a shield for group XP. That guy has a viable tool for group play yet refuses to do so, and then bitches about how he can't get a group later on. If you can pull from range as an archer, have a stack or three of the crappiest flight arrows for being a reliable puller. If you're a sin then don't waste spec on stealth poisons or critical strikes when none of those abilities will be of much use in a fast-paced group. Make yourself an asset to a group and not a liability.
The server basically allows infinite respecs as you level, and to not take advantage of this and optimize yourself for a group simply means that you don't WANT to be group friendly. And this being a social game means that people will remember this about you and say "nah, fuck that dood" when they see you in LFG trying to find a group.
For me, at no point was it impossible to get a group for faster leveling as either an archer or a sin. Below level 20 most groups will take practically anyone, and so long as you pull your weight and contribute positively to that group/groups people will remember you and you'll have a much easier time getting groups past level 20 for this reason alone. It's a social game, so be sociable and you will find success regardless of what class you play.
1. you sound like you are lecturing me- i dont like that-- do not ever presume you know more than someone else
1a. i know extactly how to spec to be group friendly as an assassin and good thing Ive never been a fan of the CS line at all. Ive been merfil/szerker since before this live was released, in fact Ive made it work with blades in a NS as well.
2. solo leveling as a bow user is still a lot longer to level than being in a bomb group-- not even a comparison. It doenst matter if the mobs die before they get to you-- 1 at a time is long vs 6+ at time every +/- 5 seconds for so
3.soloing as an assassin is even more painful
4. so yes gimmicks as you put it would level the playing field-- at least groups would view these classes as viable subsitutes to SM/ANI/ICE WIZ, and if not, then the classes could level faster
Its frustrating to see people who you saw in the starter zones level 48- 50 by the next day.