Friar Spec

#1
My friar is almost 50 and I have some questions that I cannot seem to get a straight answer on in game. Firstly, is there a need to go above 39 in staff? Does the higher weapon skill help? And do you do any more damage with higher staff. I realize the 8sec stun is at 44, but it is 3rd in a side chain, so it is not easy to get off. Also, how necessary is higher rejuv if I mainly solo/duo? The heal offensive proc buff is nice, but somewhat underwhelming when I was using it while leveling, especially if higher staff equals more damage. So what is the best spec for a solo/duo friar of the following:

48 Enhance for red cold resist and celerity, 44 staff, 8 rejuv for cures and first proc buff, 6 parry

46 Enhance for red heat resist, 44 staff, 16 rejuv for better rez and 2nd heal proc, 5 parry

46 Enhance, 39 staff, 25 rejuv for better heals, 1st hot, 3rd heal proc, 8 parry

I can also go 46-48 enhance, 8 rejuv, 39 staff, and 21 - 25 parry, but I'm not sure the higher parry is worth the offset of both low rejuv and only 39 staff.

Re: Friar Spec

#2
Maelich wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:17 pm
My friar is almost 50 and I have some questions that I cannot seem to get a straight answer on in game. Firstly, is there a need to go above 39 in staff? Does the higher weapon skill help? And do you do any more damage with higher staff. I realize the 8sec stun is at 44, but it is 3rd in a side chain, so it is not easy to get off. Also, how necessary is higher rejuv if I mainly solo/duo? The heal offensive proc buff is nice, but somewhat underwhelming when I was using it while leveling, especially if higher staff equals more damage. So what is the best spec for a solo/duo friar of the following:

48 Enhance for red cold resist and celerity, 44 staff, 8 rejuv for cures and first proc buff, 6 parry

46 Enhance for red heat resist, 44 staff, 16 rejuv for better rez and 2nd heal proc, 5 parry

46 Enhance, 39 staff, 25 rejuv for better heals, 1st hot, 3rd heal proc, 8 parry

I can also go 46-48 enhance, 8 rejuv, 39 staff, and 21 - 25 parry, but I'm not sure the higher parry is worth the offset of both low rejuv and only 39 staff.
I have run all those builds on my Friar, and my personal opinion is that is not worth speccing 44 points into staff if you are a solo Friar because of how rarely you will have the opportunity to use it. It was superb when I did manage to use it, but 95%+ of the time that was not possible. After testing out 8 Rejuv, I decided that the minimum I have would be 16, for the slightly better proc, but mostly for the better resurrection. The issue with your first 3 builds is that your parry is too low, that was one of the reason I stopped using those builds ;-).

In regards to resists, unless you are going to be regularly grouping, I see no reason to go above 46 Enhance to get the best Heat resist, the 47 Enhance speed buff is very good, but again debatable as to whether it is worth the extra points. For a while I ran the following build : 39 Staff, 47 Enhance, 16 Rejuv, 18 parry but its performance did not seem to improve due to the extra combat speed buff.

I rarely play Dhavon these days but my final build was : 39 Staff, 46 Enhance, 16 Rejuv, 20 parry, but I know a few people that have gone with 45 Enhance and 23 Parry. Personally I liked the slightly better heat resist so I thought the trade off in slightly lower parry was worth it.

Given how trivial it is to respec on here, try all the builds, see what works best your play-style.

Re: Friar Spec

#5
if I want to run 8sh gvg and the friar should be a heal friar instead of 1 cleric - i can imagine these specs:

1) 43 reju / 46 enh / 18 staff -> last spec single heal
2) 41 reju / 48 enh / 18 staff -> red cold res

i guess cure ns @ 40 reju is mandatory and also the side snare @ 18 staff.

then it depends i guess? as kinda every midgrp is running with at least 1 rm or bd (full melee with 3 offtanks i have rarely seen) and if we take a friar instead of 1 cleric, then we should try to get the most of this combo out, meaning - if i have access to 24% cold res, then i should take this instead of a better single heal

Re: Friar Spec

#7
Honest question (thinking about rolling a Friar as my next "project"); with a heal and buff spec, what's the point of a Friar in a random group (i.e. in pve or BG RvR)? Or put differently: what can you do that a Cleric with a similar spec couldn't (do better)? I guess having the staff is decent for levelling solo, but in groups I get the feeling people always wish you were rather a proper shield talk or, as already said, a cleric...

Re: Friar Spec

#8
I have a sort of weird spec but I like it for now. I just hit 50 finally and stole this spec from a friend. I went 25 rejuv, 49 enhance, 35 staff & 9 parry. My main is a cleric. I did not to to be a cleric on this toon. I want to be a back up healer if need be, but I wanted to be more tanky. Friar can bring a lot to the group. The heat & cold resists are very helpful... unlike a clerics resists. I can base, back-up heal or go kill people. I made this one also more to solo when my guildies and my husband aren’t on. Friars can be pretty badass!

Re: Friar Spec

#9
Amaday wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:08 pm
I have a sort of weird spec but I like it for now. I just hit 50 finally and stole this spec from a friend. I went 25 rejuv, 49 enhance, 35 staff & 9 parry. My main is a cleric. I did not to to be a cleric on this toon. I want to be a back up healer if need be, but I wanted to be more tanky. Friar can bring a lot to the group. The heat & cold resists are very helpful... unlike a clerics resists. I can base, back-up heal or go kill people. I made this one also more to solo when my guildies and my husband aren’t on. Friars can be pretty badass!
I also changed from my solo spec to a more group friendly spec as your's. 25rej/49enh/34staff/12parry. Not as tanky as my solo spec, but its killy as the solo spec and more group friendly with a better heal and red resists.

Re: Friar Spec

#10
Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure out if I needed to change. I’ve been driving myself crazy all day. Think I’ll keep her like this for awhile. I am really looking forward to getting her templated today and just kicking butt!