Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#11
Razur Ur wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:34 pm
You get 1L4 on 5 minutes frontier o_O what is your problem?
At what level???

We used to run out into the frontier at around level 12 and die 2 times to get 1L4.
Most people would buy Tireless, Long Wind & Serenity and then go back to leveling.
Some would continue to run around in the frontier and upset some of the elitists.

The Dev's seemed to not want low level people running around the frontier upsetting their core RVR people.
I believe that is why the changed the task requirement to level 35...?
They did not do anything to give the new people the same advantages that the original people had (1L4).

Granting the 350ish realm points across lvls 10, 15 & 20 will have no impact on 99% of the game above level 35.
It will give people who are leveling a QoL improvement with those 3 abilities.
It is not like asking to get Vanish or Purge2 for free. It is a small ask.

Do you really want level 10 alts running around in tower/keep takes?
Last edited by Fribrand on Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#12
Fribrand wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:33 pm
Razur Ur wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:34 pm
You get 1L4 on 5 minutes frontier o_O what is your problem?
At what level???

We used to run out into the frontier at around level 12 and die 2 times to get 1L4.
Most people would buy Tireless, Long Wind & Serenity and then go back to leveling.
Some would continue to run around in the frontier and upset some of the elitists.

The Dev's seemed to not want low level people running around the frontier upsetting their core RVR people.
I believe that is why the changed the task requirement to level 35...?
They did not do anything to give the new people the same advantages that the original people had (1L4).

Granting the 350ish realm points across lvls 10, 15 & 20 will have no impact on 99.999% of the game.
It will give people who are leveling a QoL improvement with those 3 abilities.
It is not like asking to get Vanish or Purge2 for free. It is a small ask.

Do you really want level 10 alts running around in tower/keep takes?
at any lvl.... just because something is easy to get doesnt mean it should be given for free.

its not that the devs dont want low lvl ppl running around in rvr, but i def dont think they intended for low lvls do ALL of their lvling through task credits, like was the case in of. ppl were sub 50 and rr5. it was a flawed system and a pain in the ass being kept in combat by greys.... the occasional dude runnning around to get 1l4 is hardly a disruption, like the previously mentioned greys that lived in emain.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#13
Fribrand wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:33 pm
Razur Ur wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:34 pm
You get 1L4 on 5 minutes frontier o_O what is your problem?
At what level???

We used to run out into the frontier at around level 12 and die 2 times to get 1L4.
Most people would buy Tireless, Long Wind & Serenity and then go back to leveling.
Some would continue to run around in the frontier and upset some of the elitists.

The Dev's seemed to not want low level people running around the frontier upsetting their core RVR people.
I believe that is why the changed the task requirement to level 35...?
They did not do anything to give the new people the same advantages that the original people had (1L4).

Granting the 350ish realm points across lvls 10, 15 & 20 will have no impact on 99% of the game above level 35.
It will give people who are leveling a QoL improvement with those 3 abilities.
It is not like asking to get Vanish or Purge2 for free. It is a small ask.

Do you really want level 10 alts running around in tower/keep takes?
For what give Battle Ground? Farming Guards or kill Enemys give nice rp´s too.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#15
gotwqqd wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:12 pm
So then the op is valid in asking.... it’s a QoL thing that something so easy basic can be given out right away. Instead of having to go find the Zerg and join for the five minutes
It is a thin edge of the wedge though. What happens in 2 months time, when someone says "Hey why dont we just do it so at lvl 20 you get rr1, 30 you get rr2, 40 you are gifted rr3 and 50 you are rr4?"
As others have mentioned its not hard to get 1L4, if someone wants it they can go get it with a small amount of time invested to do so.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#16
Bicstor wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:04 am
gotwqqd wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:12 pm
So then the op is valid in asking.... it’s a QoL thing that something so easy basic can be given out right away. Instead of having to go find the Zerg and join for the five minutes
It is a thin edge of the wedge though. What happens in 2 months time, when someone says "Hey why dont we just do it so at lvl 20 you get rr1, 30 you get rr2, 40 you are gifted rr3 and 50 you are rr4?"
As others have mentioned its not hard to get 1L4, if someone wants it they can go get it with a small amount of time invested to do so.
That's actually true though. After 1l4 it wouldn't take long to ask for 1l7 (lw tireless purge1) or 2l0 +mcl or 2l2 (lw tireless purge2).

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#17
Wolfir666 wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:23 am
Bicstor wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:04 am
gotwqqd wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:12 pm
So then the op is valid in asking.... it’s a QoL thing that something so easy basic can be given out right away. Instead of having to go find the Zerg and join for the five minutes
It is a thin edge of the wedge though. What happens in 2 months time, when someone says "Hey why dont we just do it so at lvl 20 you get rr1, 30 you get rr2, 40 you are gifted rr3 and 50 you are rr4?"
As others have mentioned its not hard to get 1L4, if someone wants it they can go get it with a small amount of time invested to do so.
That's actually true though. After 1l4 it wouldn't take long to ask for 1l7 (lw tireless purge1) or 2l0 +mcl or 2l2 (lw tireless purge2).
Purge really isn’t needed to help with leveling
LW/tireless/serenity/mcl all greatly help levelers
Purge is really only needed for rvr

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#18
Azrael wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:27 am
Mh, and why we stop at 1L4? I want lw, tireless, serenity, mcl and pr for my healer. It would be qol and do not affect any lvl 50.
Because... This is the level that people could easily obtain at the start of this server...
If u died once in frontiers... u got 1L3... if u died a 2nd time (in different timer tick) u got up to 1L4.
This is what everyone who wanted it was granted at any level...

My proposal would be at 5, 10, 15 and 20.
Slower than we were allowed originally.
We already get 1L1 at level 5 as a reward for leveling to 5?

After level 20... u can get RPs in the battlegrounds.
There are no BG options for people until level 20-24.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#19
Why would you want LW+tireless for sub levels 20 ? This is not even the level requirement to drink endo potions, so what's the point if you can't perma sprint anyway? Is serenity 1 really worth debating this, when there are tinderboxes for hugely faster regeneration ?
I don't see the QoL improvement in this suggestion, especially it is still very easy to get to level 20 and unlock battleground.

Re: Start everyone at realm rank 1L4!!!

#20
gotwqqd wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:12 pm
Razur Ur wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:34 pm
You get 1L4 on 5 minutes frontier o_O what is your problem?
So then the op is valid in asking.... it’s a QoL thing that something so easy basic can be given out right away. Instead of having to go find the Zerg and join for the five minutes
I don't agree with this statement. Even major accomplishment can be splitted in low consuming, basic and easy sub-tasks. It doesn't mean it should be given for free.
- get level 5 is easy and done in 5 minutes
- get your epic armor is easy and done in 5 minutes
- unlocking DS and HoH instances with Paul quest is easy and done in 5 minutes
- each of the mastercraftman's quest is easy and done in 5 minutes
- each of the 4 runs for the SI quest is easy and done in 5 minutes (and yet you need to do it 4 times :p)
- any single epic mob giving credit is easy and done in 5 minutes (if enough players)
- breaking tower doors and killing a tower lord is easy and done in 5 minutes (yesterday 50 seconds to kill Nott's Central Keep lord)
- each yellow con mobs is easy and done within seconds, yet ultimately, this is how you get to level 50
- many rvr tasks are easy and give RPs, and ultimately you could get to rr12 with enough repetitions ...