Bard RVR Spec

#1
So I feel like there's really only two options here, 47 Music 43 Songs 16 Reg, or 38 Music 43 Songs 33 Reg.

As a solo bard I feel like the first is the only real option in a group. If you're running two bards, the second one seems to make more sense. I'm not running an 8-man so I'm leaning towards the first option since I never know where I'll find myself.

Truly though how much are bards healing here? When I played Live I don't remember healing much at all...even if we won a blanket mezz I was still locking down that clump just to make sure no casts got off. Are Bards really finding time to be primary inturrupt and heal as well?

My playstyle is from 12 years ago so a lot has changed even though this patch is similar to old school SI. Help me make an informed decision. :)
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Re: Bard RVR Spec

#2
I've always been a fan of 47 music for the bigger insta-mez.

Longer duration and a much larger area of effect.
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#3
ive heard people talk about the 10 blade snare being usefull for Bards but it feels very awkward speccing for it and most people seem to just say "its guud noob" in advice chat when talking about it and never explain what the actual spec is.

as far as i can tell the focus for bard spec is 37 or 47 Music for the insta mezz.

If you go for 47 music 10 Blade you get 12 Reg witch i supose aint a huge sacrifice as your healing is going to be bad at that point anyway.

If you go 37 Music 10 Blade you lose the 33 Reg Heal and you end up with a bunch of spec points im unsure where to put

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#4
I decided to go 47 music 43 nurt 16 regrowth.

I played a lot of bard back in the day and maybe I was just terrible but I never pulled out my weapon for a snare. Noone I ever heard of did either. Seems like fake news to me.

Not sure trading the bigger heal is worth one 10 min CD ability but having that land can be huge.
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Re: Bard RVR Spec

#5
got to 50 on my Bard and still cant decide what to spec it. I was planning on going 37 music 33 reg as ive mostly played Druids/Healers or Wardens so im used to healing more than anything and it feels bad giving up heals just for a slightly better mezz

Im planning to mostly pug with my Bard and in a full group im not sure if i will get much of a chance to heal as i should be focusing on interupting/mezzing more than anything so 43 nurture 47 music 10 blade 12 Reg seems like a more "optimal" option for full groups but if i ever run duo/trios not having heals is gonna suck.

Re: Bard RVR Spec

#6
Laston wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:01 am
got to 50 on my Bard and still cant decide what to spec it. I was planning on going 37 music 33 reg as ive mostly played Druids/Healers or Wardens so im used to healing more than anything and it feels bad giving up heals just for a slightly better mezz

Im planning to mostly pug with my Bard and in a full group im not sure if i will get much of a chance to heal as i should be focusing on interupting/mezzing more than anything so 43 nurture 47 music 10 blade 12 Reg seems like a more "optimal" option for full groups but if i ever run duo/trios not having heals is gonna suck.
Haven’t played bard myself but been lookin at the options. I have to wonder if sacrificing healing just for a few more seconds of mez is worth it. Even if you rarely heal in a group, what do you end up getting going 47 over 37 that’s valuable?

Re: Bard RVR Spec

#7
36 AE mezz Duration:1:01 vs 43 AE mezz Duration:1:10 /// so a 9s diffrence and higher lvl so less resists to
34 DD Dmg:89 vs 44 DD Dmg:114 /// about 24 dmg diffrence
37 Insta AE Mezz Duration:26s Radius:150 vs 47 Insta AE Mezz Duration:31s Radius:300 //// 150 increase in radius is huge the duration less so with a diffrence of only 7s

Heal wise its

Baseline Medium Heal 42p Value: 231 Cast:2.8s vs 24p Value:276 Cast:2.4s so you heal slightly faster and for more with less power cost. Im not sure how the spec heal value compares as you get variance on baseline heals with such a low regrowth spec whereas the spec heal doesnt have any variance.

stilll havent specced my Bard yet its only got 9 reg 43 nurture 37 music with 532 unspent points as i need to templated it first before deciding for reals what to go

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#9
If you like both small man and full group and don't want to buy lots of respec stones the best spec is:
43 buff ( for the speed )
37 music
27 heal
19 blades

Side peel is especially needed in duo cause it make the difference if a bard can self peel a tank or peel for him for the caster duo friend.

the 26 spec heal is fine it heal about 270-280 hp with no relics and passive ras but has really low mana cost and no variances. So less than 27 heal is a problem in small man .
If you are focused on 8man setup you can have less heal and more music but... more music = wasting more mana even just tu rupt so think well about it.
A nice spec you can do if you are considering double bards setup 8man is decreasing pts in buff spec and increasing heals .
42 heal ( the best single heal u can get)
37 music
33 buff ( yellow end and speed are not so bad for the grp)
10 blades ( for the peel)