Top Soloers

Started 6 Aug 2019
by vxr
in RvR
I dropped the solo list from the herald (as of 8/6/19 1:30PM est) into a database to see what the list would look like if it was ordered by solo kill per RP. Here is the list if you are interested to see where you are:

*If anyone knows how to make a table on this forum please let me know. I tried using , ,
and tags, but no luck.

Pos Name Class
1 Hide Infiltrator
2 Zarah Reaver
3 Faily Nightshade
4 Johnsnow Scout
5 Kerl Skald
6 Bit Minstrel
7 Perzephone Ranger
8 Gojira Skald
9 Tzika Nightshade
10 Nattkatten Nightshade
11 Woodspryte Necromancer
12 Zephf Minstrel
13 Xann Nightshade
14 Gangster Nightshade
15 Misstique Nightshade
16 Yarazluck Nightshade
17 Silentblade Nightshade
18 Marshall Shadowblade
19 Gretaa Shadowblade
20 Ekliger Shadowblade
21 Tila Shadowblade
22 Ylva Shadowblade
23 Vladamyre Infiltrator
24 Molo Minstrel
25 Teimuda Nightshade
26 Salmakia Infiltrator
27 Quietsport Shadowblade
28 Expinf Infiltrator
29 Cedrus Minstrel
30 Mordouce Shadowblade
31 Abumabum Minstrel
32 Heres Shadowblade
33 Alusetta Hunter
34 Phixion Shadowblade
35 Shurtugal Nightshade
36 Zoega Hunter
37 Trellina Shadowblade
38 Xeus Minstrel
39 Bombzz Spiritmaster
40 Gigitys Shadowblade
41 Lunenoire Shadowblade
42 Iskander Infiltrator
43 Sonora Nightshade
44 Wutan Nightshade
45 Ghostbear Shadowblade
46 Kjn Nightshade
47 Lisboa Nightshade
48 Shooty Nightshade
49 Xelmo Infiltrator
50 Rikku Ranger
51 Lyktemenn Shadowblade
52 Spadd Shadowblade
53 Armyr Shadowblade
54 Ifan Ranger
55 Exo Nightshade
56 Faytez Thane
57 Lantaaskald Skald
58 Aronox Shadowblade
59 Pumkin Shadowblade
60 Mavella Shadowblade
61 Rivana Shadowblade
62 Kniv Infiltrator
63 Outlaw Hunter
64 Tweetz Infiltrator
65 Acu Infiltrator
66 Josee Ranger
67 Riyu Shadowblade
68 Sheani Shadowblade
69 Andren Infiltrator
70 Knolle Scout
71 Aylmao Infiltrator
72 Puffotter Nightshade
73 Stranded Shadowblade
74 Alcohol Ranger
75 Hansen Shadowblade
76 Catzilla Shadowblade
77 Brainstorm Nightshade
78 Hayzio Nightshade
79 Expscout Scout
80 Raketen Shadowblade
81 Darkfoer Nightshade
82 Hashishun Shadowblade
83 Feardownzx Infiltrator
84 Undacover Shadowblade
85 Jatho Scout
86 Linka Shadowblade
87 Dangleberryfinn Nightshade
88 Angeluz Infiltrator
89 Saraklur Nightshade
90 Veggie Minstrel
91 Dandere Shadowblade
92 Broomhilda Nightshade
93 Naas Shadowblade
94 Deception Shadowblade
95 Esana Skald
96 Gotmagi Champion
97 Nairobi Infiltrator
98 Meggles Infiltrator
99 Pox Nightshade
100 Cherrycola Infiltrator
101 Dangys Champion
102 Marla Nightshade
103 Spartaque Infiltrator
104 Vampzqt Infiltrator
105 Gattaca Nightshade
106 Griis Shadowblade
107 Lonelyheart Nightshade
108 Mixalis Shadowblade
109 Pinned Infiltrator
110 Xiu Nightshade
111 Groal Infiltrator
112 Shanen Minstrel
113 Dec Minstrel
114 Gumby Nightshade
115 Mcnasty Infiltrator
116 Bodyache Nightshade
117 Muerte Infiltrator
118 Longshot Scout
119 Zervla Infiltrator
120 Redbull Infiltrator
121 Lollipop Ranger
122 Nidar Nightshade
123 Iso Nightshade
124 Meuchelheinzi Shadowblade
125 Edwinhuk Infiltrator
126 Lovelyone Nightshade
127 Bisu Nightshade
128 Furtz Nightshade
129 Akopra Hunter
130 Dazd Nightshade
131 Lowrider Nightshade
132 Arctica Skald
133 Toicmoi Nightshade
134 Lady Infiltrator
135 Zoric Infiltrator
136 Sneakdiss Shadowblade
137 Cyrexia Shadowblade
138 Boucletrange Infiltrator
139 Inchai Shadowblade
140 Biotin Nightshade
141 Broimx Bonedancer
142 Merikan Nightshade
143 Akela Nightshade
144 Tani Nightshade
145 Zeh Infiltrator
146 Crashing Nightshade
147 Mehruny Skald
148 Jamiesmallicus Champion
149 Slash Skald
150 Hanma Infiltrator
151 Maltzit Shadowblade
152 Leofy Nightshade
153 Siks Minstrel
154 Palim Minstrel
155 Sneakyshade Nightshade
156 Heima Nightshade
157 Tamy Scout
158 Hgodz Infiltrator
159 Guccigang Infiltrator
160 Bax Scout
161 Bluna Nightshade
162 Gullys Infiltrator
163 Morrslieb Infiltrator
164 Tencolbart Ranger
165 Caois Nightshade
166 Horg Hunter
167 Friedel Nightshade
168 Ledri Thane
169 Roko Infiltrator
170 Lusitana Eldritch
171 Quickstab Nightshade
172 Dromel Shadowblade
173 Allpha Minstrel
174 Lalibe Champion
175 Pilfinger Hunter
176 Honeybadger Infiltrator
177 Savrun Infiltrator
178 Nogrods Skald
179 Infinity Infiltrator
180 Grimsters Shadowblade
181 Ojun Shadowblade
182 Yamyam Ranger
183 Longlife Nightshade
184 Mryellow Shadowblade
185 Songoku Infiltrator
186 Unforgettable Minstrel
187 Evy Infiltrator
188 Reeses Nightshade
189 Taftaf Sorcerer
190 Yukina Infiltrator
191 Freddogelidoo Infiltrator
192 Kemy Paladin
193 Bibbidibobbidi Shadowblade
194 Nildain Champion
195 Galid Infiltrator
196 Ichii Hunter
197 Stunny Scout
198 Lukoya Skald
199 Toolate Infiltrator
200 Mirukami Infiltrator
201 Nesretnik Ranger
202 Warsong Minstrel
203 Diatom Bonedancer
204 Baval Infiltrator
205 Ghen Shadowblade
206 Lilbusta Shadowblade
207 Doppler Reaver
208 Volkar Warrior
209 Thanatos Blademaster
210 Shuja Infiltrator
211 Alpha Skald
212 Xook Shadowblade
213 Rofjord Mercenary
214 Skairipa Scout
215 Hwwaatt Nightshade
216 Ozoan Skald
217 Cenasha Thane
218 Kryone Bonedancer
219 Infidel Infiltrator
220 Ptipin Skald
221 Juara Champion
222 Wreckser Scout
223 Catkain Skald
224 Krypskytt Hunter
225 Fadee Shadowblade
226 Senti Minstrel
227 Pogs Skald
228 Lotta Skald
229 Raketenerna Minstrel
230 Brain Necromancer
231 Limpshot Hunter
232 Pieering Infiltrator
233 Voltage Skald
234 Boomslang Nightshade
235 Pinki Minstrel
236 Ave Minstrel
237 Wicenz Minstrel
238 Keepy Friar
239 Altknight Necromancer
240 Scandalous Skald
241 Idedir Skald
242 Killaloth Blademaster
243 Myloxon Mercenary
244 Qsha Skald
245 Shelena Bonedancer
246 Adrenaline Skald
247 Nightstalker Hunter
248 Stunbot Reaver
249 Azteqz Sorceress
250 Leroy Minstrel
Tue 6 Aug 2019 5:56 PM by Kemoauc
rps / solo kills means that people that played a lot of battlegrounds will be placed higher or that people that kill a lot of lowlvl opponents are placed higher. Alternatively, I guess a more lvl neutral metric would be to check the ratio of solo kills / total kills or maybe even something like deaths / solo kills
Tue 6 Aug 2019 6:12 PM by Turano
I guess you would have to substract task rp's from the total as well and then you still won't be able to know underpop-, guild- or keepboni.
Are you aiming for any statistical value with this list?
Tue 6 Aug 2019 6:14 PM by vxr
Kemoauc wrote:
Tue 6 Aug 2019 5:56 PM
rps / solo kills means that people that played a lot of battlegrounds will be placed higher or that people that kill a lot of lowlvl opponents are placed higher. Alternatively, I guess a more lvl neutral metric would be to check the ratio of solo kills / total kills or maybe even something like deaths / solo kills

This is 100% correct, but the issue is that the Phoneix herald solo kills only shows me RP and total solo kills, it does not show me total kills or deaths. Going through each persons statistics would take too long manually and to automate it would also take more work than I am willing to put into it. If there is an API it would be much easier. Not sure if there is.

This took me a total of 10 minutes. I really would like solo kills / total kills.
Tue 6 Aug 2019 6:15 PM by vxr
Turano wrote:
Tue 6 Aug 2019 6:12 PM
I guess you would have to substract task rp's from the total as well and then you still won't be able to know underpop-, guild- or keepboni.
Are you aiming for any statistical value with this list?

Definitely agree, but same issue as with total kills and death, they are not listed on the solo page. If they were, it would be very easy.
Tue 6 Aug 2019 7:45 PM by Kemoauc
I scraped the herald.

got top 250 of every class of every relevant metric and combined them into a file. Removed all characters that didn't have values for all metrics.

Edit2: replaced link
Tue 6 Aug 2019 7:56 PM by shintacki
Google doc? Thats about all I can think of that most people could access.
Tue 6 Aug 2019 8:16 PM by vxr
Kemoauc wrote:
Tue 6 Aug 2019 7:45 PM
I scraped the herald.

got top 250 of every class of every relevant metric and combined them into a file. Removed all characters that didn't have values for all metrics.

Edit: https://pastebin.com/vyUPxK8L

Edit2: replaced link

Ah, what a great idea. I didn't think of that thanks! When I get some time I'll work with the data and post the results.. Thanks!
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:08 AM by Aggro
totally wasted These Side cause killing low ppl get listet aswell … no high kills here . So better call it Top Grey Ganker …..
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:47 AM by vxr
Aggro wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:08 AM
totally wasted These Side cause killing low ppl get listet aswell … no high kills here . So better call it Top Grey Ganker …..

I don't think greys count for solo kills.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:53 AM by Aggro
green better `?
Wed 7 Aug 2019 4:03 AM by vxr
Aggro wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:53 AM
green better `?

Well ya, because green do count.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 4:39 AM by florin
I’m on the list!
Wed 7 Aug 2019 5:18 AM by Druth
A solo kill list here means little to nothing.
I get solo kills if I do 1 point of damage to someone, who then proceeds to die to guards.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 6:48 AM by Sepplord
Druth wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 5:18 AM
A solo kill list here means little to nothing.
I get solo kills if I do 1 point of damage to someone, who then proceeds to die to guards.

my healer got a solo kill when he was around lvl45 while AFKing in front of the taskkeep that way, probably via reactive procc
Wed 7 Aug 2019 8:14 AM by Kemoauc
you don't need to do damage to get a credit.

I can angrily shout at people from a distance and get a solo kill if they suicide into guards
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:21 PM by Stoertebecker
Druth wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 5:18 AM
A solo kill list here means little to nothing.
I get solo kills if I do 1 point of damage to someone, who then proceeds to die to guards.

It counts for the solo-task if you do 1 damage and the target died by guards.
But it only counts for the solo-counter if you did the last hit with your 1 damage.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:36 PM by florin
People not on the list are poo pooing the list - how surprising - those are some sour grapes
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:52 PM by Sepplord
florin wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:36 PM
People not on the list are poo pooing the list - how surprising - those are some sour grapes

I am place 20 and i know i am not the top20 solo-killer off the server....probably not even close to that.

i am high ranked, because i have spent quite some time in DF, getting solo-kills while earning few RPs
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:58 PM by florin
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:52 PM
florin wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 12:36 PM
People not on the list are poo pooing the list - how surprising - those are some sour grapes

I am place 20 and i know i am not the top20 solo-killer off the server....probably not even close to that.

i am high ranked, because i have spent quite some time in DF, getting solo-kills while earning few RPs
Yep perfect for the parameters of this report - you’re not a “top” soloer or even a good one , but you’re primarily a soloer
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:00 PM by Horus
Solo kills vs lev 50 opponents would be a better metric to indicate what i think your are trying to portray.

No kudos for solo killing levelers or BG kills.

I've done a lot of it myself (not grey) so not judging...just saying. Skews the results.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:10 PM by vxr
Horus wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:00 PM
Solo kills vs lev 50 opponents would be a better metric to indicate what i think your are trying to portray.

No kudos for solo killing levelers or BG kills.

I've done a lot of it myself (not grey) so not judging...just saying. Skews the results.

I agree with you, but there is no level 50 solo kill stat.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:12 PM by Wooshh
Remove bonedancers and necros
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:35 PM by vxr
Wooshh wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:12 PM
Remove bonedancers and necros

lol. But there are only 4 necros and 5 BDs
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:50 PM by Runental
My lv 40 Caledonia Shaman with 500 solo kills didn't made it into the list 😔 even he is class #1 😔
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:57 PM by vxr
Runental wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 2:50 PM
My lv 40 Caledonia Shaman with 500 solo kills didn't made it into the list 😔 even he is class #1 😔

You keep your BG toons outa my list!
The reason he wasn't in it is because the data came from the top 250 solo kills and 644 is the lowest on the list. I have some additional data now, so you might show up on the revised list.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:01 PM by Runental
I know Bombzz, don't take it to serious
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:05 PM by vxr
Runental wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:01 PM
I know Bombzz, don't take it to serious

I didn't! I am just messing around! <3
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:59 PM by Sepplord
now kiss (and let me in on the action ops: )
Wed 7 Aug 2019 4:24 PM by vxr
Sepplord wrote:
Wed 7 Aug 2019 3:59 PM
now kiss (and let me in on the action ops: )

lol, sure no problem as long as your not an elf... /kisses all around.
Wed 7 Aug 2019 6:27 PM by vxr
Kemoauc wrote:
Tue 6 Aug 2019 5:56 PM
rps / solo kills means that people that played a lot of battlegrounds will be placed higher or that people that kill a lot of lowlvl opponents are placed higher. Alternatively, I guess a more lvl neutral metric would be to check the ratio of solo kills / total kills or maybe even something like deaths / solo kills

I had a couple of minutes to work on this.
The data already includes RP kills, so no need to subtract task/keeps

I liked the solo kills / total kills you suggested, but I got some odd results. There is an RM with 95%+ solo kills and an infil and hunter with 94%.

I was thinking of something like: Solokills / total kills * killRP - that seems to weed out the BG players.
That puts Xann (NS) at the top with a value of: 3,593,066 and a whopping 87% solo kill rate
The next couple are:
Phixion: 3,325,083 47%
Lunenoire 2,997,566 44%
Shurtugal 2,573,873 68%

One other idea is to put the cut off at 1,000,000 (solo/kills *killRP) and then sort by solo kills / total kills.

Anyone with statistics background lol!??
Sat 10 Aug 2019 9:14 AM by Lillebror
On Uthgard we had high solo kills, it counted only killing lvl 50. Fix both BG and ganking of levlers
Sun 11 Aug 2019 3:22 PM by CptnPanic
Good to see Yara and Perz up there. Haven’t played with them in Phoenix, but played around Yara a ton back in the day on Live. gg
Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:50 PM by Tigerforce
I think the only way to do it, is to calculate how Halo used to do it online, with K/D ratios. Solo Kill Total divided All time Deaths. Of course nothing can be exact representation of skill but knowing your KD ratio would give you an idea.

All Time Solo Kills / All Time Deaths = X.X
1.0 = your 50/50 in your amount to kills vs deaths
1.2 - 2.0 = Your doing fairly well to Exceedingly well in getting more kills than deaths
0.9 - 0.0 = Your dying more than the number of solo kills your getting.
Wed 14 Aug 2019 12:00 AM by florin
Tigerforce wrote:
Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:50 PM
I think the only way to do it, is to calculate how Halo used to do it online, with K/D ratios. Solo Kill Total divided All time Deaths. Of course nothing can be exact representation of skill but knowing your KD ratio would give you an idea.

All Time Solo Kills / All Time Deaths = X.X
1.0 = your 50/50 in your amount to kills vs deaths
1.2 - 2.0 = Your doing fairly well to Exceedingly well in getting more kills than deaths
0.9 - 0.0 = Your dying more than the number of solo kills your getting.

That would be skewed by the “green” killers plus personally I’ve run many suicide missions to get that caster or healer that would get lost in that formula.

A perma IRS score that factors kills/deaths/rps would be more accurate as high value targets are better reflected
Wed 14 Aug 2019 12:13 AM by Azuell
florin wrote:
Wed 14 Aug 2019 12:00 AM
Tigerforce wrote:
Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:50 PM
I think the only way to do it, is to calculate how Halo used to do it online, with K/D ratios. Solo Kill Total divided All time Deaths. Of course nothing can be exact representation of skill but knowing your KD ratio would give you an idea.

All Time Solo Kills / All Time Deaths = X.X
1.0 = your 50/50 in your amount to kills vs deaths
1.2 - 2.0 = Your doing fairly well to Exceedingly well in getting more kills than deaths
0.9 - 0.0 = Your dying more than the number of solo kills your getting.

That would be skewed by the “green” killers plus personally I’ve run many suicide missions to get that caster or healer that would get lost in that formula.

A perma IRS score that factors kills/deaths/rps would be more accurate as high value targets are better reflected

That would be skewed by rp bonuses and non-solo kills. Average opponent's realm rank probably wouldn't even be distinguishable.

Determining the statistically best soloer would be difficult with the stats available.
Wed 14 Aug 2019 1:24 AM by Tigerforce
florin wrote:
Wed 14 Aug 2019 12:00 AM
Tigerforce wrote:
Tue 13 Aug 2019 10:50 PM
I think the only way to do it, is to calculate how Halo used to do it online, with K/D ratios. Solo Kill Total divided All time Deaths. Of course nothing can be exact representation of skill but knowing your KD ratio would give you an idea.

All Time Solo Kills / All Time Deaths = X.X
1.0 = your 50/50 in your amount to kills vs deaths
1.2 - 2.0 = Your doing fairly well to Exceedingly well in getting more kills than deaths
0.9 - 0.0 = Your dying more than the number of solo kills your getting.

That would be skewed by the “green” killers plus personally I’ve run many suicide missions to get that caster or healer that would get lost in that formula.

A perma IRS score that factors kills/deaths/rps would be more accurate as high value targets are better reflected

Like I said its impossible given the setup of these kind of ranks. But like the other person said the RP's cannot be factored in because there is such a flux in rp's (realm bonus, task bonus, pop bonus, pots ect…) Factoring above what I said and comparing it to the RP's is how one can determine whether or not he's a "green killer". If his KD ratio is 1.8 and total solo kills is crazy like 2k+ but only RR5... then obviously that's a red flag in him/her being a "Green killer". If they have a high KD ratio and their RP's for the week are a staggering 300k+ or w/e then you know most of those are from killing 50's and not from greens. Seeing as Green give typically 500rps' vs a 50 being 900-1500+ as well as seeing a corresponding amnt of kills.
Wed 11 Sep 2019 2:00 AM by Maca
That's funny I just got killed solo buy your number 7 with 4 others he running with.
Fri 13 Sep 2019 8:00 AM by Shafirion
Maca wrote:
Wed 11 Sep 2019 2:00 AM
That's funny I just got killed solo buy your number 7 with 4 others he running with.

How much Platin did you spent on the number 7 and his friends? Isn't this considered human trafficking and therefore against server rules?
Fri 13 Sep 2019 10:56 AM by Freedomcall
It is totally useless to debate on how to define 'top soloers'.
I've seen so many players that rely on other player's aids but still say he solos.
Albs can get theurg's dmg add and haste, and necro's abs buff.
Mids get runnie's dmg add and BD's abs buff.
Hibs can also get abs buff from Animists.

More funny thing, I've even seen players that ask for cleric's 20 min heal proc buff!
Isn't it wonderful how so many players are trying to beat others with these secret buffs?

So, forget about saying things like 'i pwned you' ' i'm better than you' bla bla blah.
Just enjoy this 24/7 endless war of dark age of camelot.
Fri 13 Sep 2019 9:13 PM by Killaloth
Freedomcall wrote:
Fri 13 Sep 2019 10:56 AM
It is totally useless to debate on how to define 'top soloers'.
I've seen so many players that rely on other player's aids but still say he solos.
Albs can get theurg's dmg add and haste, and necro's abs buff.
Mids get runnie's dmg add and BD's abs buff.
Hibs can also get abs buff from Animists.

More funny thing, I've even seen players that ask for cleric's 20 min heal proc buff!
Isn't it wonderful how so many players are trying to beat others with these secret buffs?

So, forget about saying things like 'i pwned you' ' i'm better than you' bla bla blah.
Just enjoy this 24/7 endless war of dark age of camelot.

This is incorrect as basically no rvr animist run the abs buffs. The only true soloers are Hibbbbs
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