gruenesschaf
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:47 AMThe drop off 2 days ago was quite severe due to the mail problems that are largely resolved though, yesterday it was rather close to level of last week https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html which is kind of bad in and of itself as it would without those measures have been more but it's not even close to the 1000 people you suggest.
Anyways, with the last update where it now stores a token per account on your computer to skip the verification email in case of ip changes the entire thing should practically become a non issue as it'll just be a single confirmation per account.
Sure there are only very few people that were affected by this one individual but as you say, public account names makes it somewhat easy, especially if weak passwords are involved and hence 2fa is something that should have been there from the beginning.
Mac wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 12:47 PMgruenesschaf wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:47 AMThe drop off 2 days ago was quite severe due to the mail problems that are largely resolved though, yesterday it was rather close to level of last week https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html which is kind of bad in and of itself as it would without those measures have been more but it's not even close to the 1000 people you suggest.
Anyways, with the last update where it now stores a token per account on your computer to skip the verification email in case of ip changes the entire thing should practically become a non issue as it'll just be a single confirmation per account.
Sure there are only very few people that were affected by this one individual but as you say, public account names makes it somewhat easy, especially if weak passwords are involved and hence 2fa is something that should have been there from the beginning.
Storing token on our PCs gan be a good thing, to avoid having to validate emails every day BUT... What if that token was somehow deleted? I believe we need a way at login to request another token or that another email be sent. Two factor authentication is a good idea but we need a complete infrastructure system based around that.
Also, if you put a donate button on the site I believe people will send you money. IF you had more funds could you pay for things liked a signed certificate so you don't look so much like a bad actor to the ISPs and mail providers?
Numatic wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 1:20 PMMac wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 12:47 PMgruenesschaf wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:47 AMThe drop off 2 days ago was quite severe due to the mail problems that are largely resolved though, yesterday it was rather close to level of last week https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html which is kind of bad in and of itself as it would without those measures have been more but it's not even close to the 1000 people you suggest.
Anyways, with the last update where it now stores a token per account on your computer to skip the verification email in case of ip changes the entire thing should practically become a non issue as it'll just be a single confirmation per account.
Sure there are only very few people that were affected by this one individual but as you say, public account names makes it somewhat easy, especially if weak passwords are involved and hence 2fa is something that should have been there from the beginning.
Storing token on our PCs gan be a good thing, to avoid having to validate emails every day BUT... What if that token was somehow deleted? I believe we need a way at login to request another token or that another email be sent. Two factor authentication is a good idea but we need a complete infrastructure system based around that.
Also, if you put a donate button on the site I believe people will send you money. IF you had more funds could you pay for things liked a signed certificate so you don't look so much like a bad actor to the ISPs and mail providers?
I thought if the system didnt find the token it would simply send you a reverification email?
Numatic wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 1:20 PMMac wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 12:47 PMgruenesschaf wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:47 AMThe drop off 2 days ago was quite severe due to the mail problems that are largely resolved though, yesterday it was rather close to level of last week https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html which is kind of bad in and of itself as it would without those measures have been more but it's not even close to the 1000 people you suggest.
Anyways, with the last update where it now stores a token per account on your computer to skip the verification email in case of ip changes the entire thing should practically become a non issue as it'll just be a single confirmation per account.
Sure there are only very few people that were affected by this one individual but as you say, public account names makes it somewhat easy, especially if weak passwords are involved and hence 2fa is something that should have been there from the beginning.
Storing token on our PCs gan be a good thing, to avoid having to validate emails every day BUT... What if that token was somehow deleted? I believe we need a way at login to request another token or that another email be sent. Two factor authentication is a good idea but we need a complete infrastructure system based around that.
Also, if you put a donate button on the site I believe people will send you money. IF you had more funds could you pay for things liked a signed certificate so you don't look so much like a bad actor to the ISPs and mail providers?
I thought if the system didnt find the token it would simply send you a reverification email?
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:47 AMThe drop off 2 days ago was quite severe due to the mail problems that are largely resolved though, yesterday it was rather close to level of last week https://unixgeek.com/phoenix.html which is kind of bad in and of itself as it would without those measures have been more but it's not even close to the 1000 people you suggest.
Anyways, with the last update where it now stores a token per account on your computer to skip the verification email in case of ip changes the entire thing should practically become a non issue as it'll just be a single confirmation per account.
Sure there are only very few people that were affected by this one individual but as you say, public account names makes it somewhat easy, especially if weak passwords are involved and hence 2fa is something that should have been there from the beginning.
Gfxygames wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 5:11 PMI wouldn't be surprised people think it's a bug and aren't reading the message. They see red and don't read. They prolly continue to see it and think welp, time to go play something else. No where near 1,000 player drop off but I'll bet there's a chunk of people. Or, they don't rember the email or the email password from an account they made during beta. They don't read the forums or check discord to know they can change the email. It's not like they went back to the other server based on pop over there :p. But, this does seem to be a blow to the pop and might start the trend down, hope I'm wrong.
Mac wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 5:56 PMGfxygames wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 5:11 PMI wouldn't be surprised people think it's a bug and aren't reading the message. They see red and don't read. They prolly continue to see it and think welp, time to go play something else. No where near 1,000 player drop off but I'll bet there's a chunk of people. Or, they don't rember the email or the email password from an account they made during beta. They don't read the forums or check discord to know they can change the email. It's not like they went back to the other server based on pop over there :p. But, this does seem to be a blow to the pop and might start the trend down, hope I'm wrong.
If people can't or won't read they will have a difficult time in DAoC. A LOT of reading is needed.
Quik wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:41 PM
Except we have been averaging 3.5k-4k at these times. I've posted the numbers in multiple threads over the last week before the email issues.
We have hit 4.5k but it is not average
Quik wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:41 PM
Except we have been averaging 3.5k-4k at these times. I've posted the numbers in multiple threads over the last week before the email issues.
We have hit 4.5k but it is not average
Zansobar wrote: ↑Sun 24 Feb 2019 3:34 PMFrug wrote: ↑Sun 24 Feb 2019 3:22 PMQuik wrote: ↑Sun 17 Feb 2019 7:41 PMExcept we have been averaging 3.5k-4k at these times. I've posted the numbers in multiple threads over the last week before the email issues.
We have hit 4.5k but it is not average
When? Unless the phoenix frontpage is wrong, I don't think this is true.
In game /serverinfo is probably more accurate.
Frug wrote: ↑Sun 24 Feb 2019 6:26 PM
So far, it has not been. Every time I've done /serverinfo and checked the phoenix front page, the #'s are within a few 1/10's of % of each other, often exactly the same.
A discrepancy of 500 players I can't accept, because my testing of this hasn't shown anything even remotely close. I'd love to see some screenshots of over 4.5k /serverinfo's though.
gruenesschaf
gruenesschaf wrote: ↑Mon 25 Feb 2019 11:46 AMFor us a connected client has no realm, while it technically could via the chararacter select screen we do not track that really -> the stuff shown on the front page are logged in players actually in the game on some character (which has the realm). The front page uses an api endpoint that the gameserver exposes and the gameserver itself uses it for the /serverinfo command, the front page shows exactly what at that moment /serverinfo would return for alb/mid/hib and updates once every minute or so, just like ingame the /serverinfo result is cached for 30 seconds. The unixgeek page is actually scraping our front page.
Example from just now:
Relidar wrote: ↑Mon 25 Feb 2019 4:00 PMSmall QoL (which i posted under suggestion weeks ago), mind adding a "Total Players" under the realm numbers please?
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