Stealther with no/very low envenom

Started 16 Mar 2020
by Kahmi
in Tavern
Hello

Is that viable ?

I want to play a stealther (I like going in df particularly) but I really don't want to switch weapons all the time etc, so do you think I can still do it and have some fun and which of the stealther would be more appropriate ?
I thought about a melee ranger but they don't have detect hidden and I don't know how much it hurts them, I have not played this game in a long long time, any help would be appreciated.
Mon 16 Mar 2020 11:37 AM by Sepplord
If you want to play a stealther without switching weapons, stay away from assassins... period
For ganking in DF vanish can be a very usefull tool though to not wipe out easily.

There is also no detect hidden ingame. And both archers/assassins have their own advantages regarding detection. (i am not 100% sure about the numbers, so i will just explain it in general with a Variable X... i believe X is 250units but that could be wrong))

Archers can detect assassins at range X
Archers can detect Archers at range X
Assasssins can detect Archers at range X
Assassins can detect Assassins at range X/2

So, as an archer you can detect assassins better than an assassin could detect an assassin, but you cannot hide from assassins as well as an assassin could
Mon 16 Mar 2020 12:41 PM by Kahmi
First of all, thanks for your input,
I found what you are talking about here : http://playphoenix.wiki/stealth-changes/

I was looking on a melee ranger spec that could work but it seems assassins will spot me easily
Mon 16 Mar 2020 1:22 PM by Saroi
Kahmi wrote:
Mon 16 Mar 2020 12:41 PM
First of all, thanks for your input,
I found what you are talking about here : http://playphoenix.wiki/stealth-changes/

I was looking on a melee ranger spec that could work but it seems assassins will spot me easily

This is old though. Archers and Assassins have the same detect range now. So you will see Assassins the same they will see you as an Archer.

Melee ranger are good here and can fight vs Assassins in 1v1.
Tue 17 Mar 2020 7:10 AM by inoeth
Saroi wrote:
Mon 16 Mar 2020 1:22 PM
Kahmi wrote:
Mon 16 Mar 2020 12:41 PM
First of all, thanks for your input,
I found what you are talking about here : http://playphoenix.wiki/stealth-changes/

I was looking on a melee ranger spec that could work but it seems assassins will spot me easily

This is old though. Archers and Assassins have the same detect range now. So you will see Assassins the same they will see you as an Archer.

Melee ranger are good here and can fight vs Assassins in 1v1.

just like hunters
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