Stoertebecker wrote: ↑Tue 4 Feb 2020 1:29 PMSepplord wrote: ↑Mon 3 Feb 2020 10:45 PMWolfir666 wrote: ↑Mon 3 Feb 2020 10:28 PMAdmittedly chess really isnt a good example, or maybe it even is, as the rules never are changed, in 100 years you still will play chess exactly the same way as you do now, only thing that exists is a slight difference between existing rulesets like en passant and such.
So in truth you can call a chessplayer a very specialized player, that always does the same, because he learned everything of that a long while ago, and he learned all possible counters and existing strategies to counter the counters and such.. but he never will have to face new rule-changes or evolving game-tactics, as he knows them all already.
Basically like a DAoC-player from 20 years ago, who still likes to play it the "old way" and isn't open for any changes
By the way, that's why a casual chess-player is sometimes able to beat a semi-professional chess player in the first match. As the semi-pro in all his experience and knowledge isnt able to determine, what the casual will do, in the very first game. But as soon as he knows your playstyle and can read you, no chance anymore.
How is chess not a good example? It's an old game and you listed examples yourself how someone's skill in the game lets him consistently beat new players. Imo it is perfect to show that old games still require skill and not everything modern is automatically better for displaying skill.
Remember why i made the argument: stoertebecker implied that daoc doesnt require skill and that actually skilled players would have the reflexes to play a newer game. That is the context in which i mentioned chess as example of a reflex-independant old Game that is very skilldependant
The chessplayer i met is brilliant in playing chess, but thats all, he fails in all other stuff. He broke 2 fingers on his left hand as he was trying to knock a nail into the wall.
Should i go wild for such skill? Surely not. Thats a realy worse example from your side.
Chess requires exactly 1 Skill, DAoC is a bit more complex but its gameplay is (compared with more modern games in this genre) slow and static.
Generally not a bad thing, nothing to brag about....but if i read such nonsense that ppl think they`re something like a gamergod...yeah *clap clap
Btw, reflexes slow down over the years..human:nature
I would vehemently disagree with you in that more modern games require skill. Let's compare WoW and ESO PvP to DAOC's PvP. I got incredibly bored with ESO because the battles became much more predictable than DAOC's battles. In both ESO and WoW the winner was determined by their temp and not their actual skill. At least here on Phoenix the bar is much lower for putting together a suit for RvR, and then it's also the abilities of the player and class after that that determine your chances of winning a fight.