Which classes/lines take advantage of the bleed changes the best?

Started 19 Jun 2020
by gotwqqd
in RvR
Which class/style line takes advantage of stacking the best.
Considering the upcoming chain breaks we will see some long chains unable to stack the 2 or 3 bleeds in them
Fri 19 Jun 2020 9:54 PM by Spiegal
That would be the Albs... with Infiltrator and Mercenary Dual shadow skill.
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:43 PM by Cadebrennus
Spiegal wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 9:54 PM
That would be the Albs... with Infiltrator and Mercenary Dual shadow skill.

Infiltrators only get 13 per tick
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:57 PM by gromet12
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:43 PM
Spiegal wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 9:54 PM
That would be the Albs... with Infiltrator and Mercenary Dual shadow skill.

Infiltrators only get 13 per tick

Still higher than most anything else around especially for a frontal style
Sat 20 Jun 2020 2:38 AM by Delegator
I just wouldn't count on anything until the style revamp goes in shortly. All current information may change.
Tue 23 Jun 2020 6:16 PM by daoklover
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:43 PM
Spiegal wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 9:54 PM
That would be the Albs... with Infiltrator and Mercenary Dual shadow skill.

Infiltrators only get 13 per tick

Ummm no it’s 37 a tick..
Tue 23 Jun 2020 9:14 PM by Cadebrennus
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 6:16 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:43 PM
Spiegal wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 9:54 PM
That would be the Albs... with Infiltrator and Mercenary Dual shadow skill.

Infiltrators only get 13 per tick

Ummm no it’s 37 a tick..

Dual Shadows
Level
50
To Hit Bonus
10
Defense Bonus
-10
Requirement
Positional: Front
Growth Rate
0.83000
Endurance
10
Bleeding, 13 , 40sec
Level
0
Damage
13
Damage Type
Body
Duration
40s
Frequency
4s
Range
500
Target
Enemy
Type
Style Bleeding
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:05 PM by daoklover
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 9:14 PM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 6:16 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Fri 19 Jun 2020 10:43 PM
Infiltrators only get 13 per tick

Ummm no it’s 37 a tick..

Dual Shadows
Level
50
To Hit Bonus
10
Defense Bonus
-10
Requirement
Positional: Front
Growth Rate
0.83000
Endurance
10
Bleeding, 13 , 40sec
Level
0
Damage
13
Damage Type
Body
Duration
40s
Frequency
4s
Range
500
Target
Enemy
Type
Style Bleeding

I'm glad you copied and pasted some description of Duel Shadows that's probably not updated.

Now play the game and check for yourself. It is 37 dmg/tick vs. SB with capped resists.
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:12 PM by gotwqqd
After the damage stack nerf I’d like to see a stacking snare to compensate for it.

Maybe 3-5% each bleed?
Or 10% of the damage per tic in % snare
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:13 PM by gromet12
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:05 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 9:14 PM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 6:16 PM
Ummm no it’s 37 a tick..

Dual Shadows
Level
50
To Hit Bonus
10
Defense Bonus
-10
Requirement
Positional: Front
Growth Rate
0.83000
Endurance
10
Bleeding, 13 , 40sec
Level
0
Damage
13
Damage Type
Body
Duration
40s
Frequency
4s
Range
500
Target
Enemy
Type
Style Bleeding

I'm glad you copied and pasted some description of Duel Shadows that's probably not updated.

Now play the game and check for yourself. It is 37 dmg/tick vs. SB with capped resists.

It's 13 per dual shadow for an infy and stacks up to 50 which is the 37 (50dmg) you are seeing
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:14 PM by gromet12
gotwqqd wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:12 PM
After the damage stack nerf I’d like to see a stacking snare to compensate for it.

Maybe 3-5% each bleed?
Or 10% of the damage per tic in % snare

Not really a nerf if it was fixed quickly because only helped one realm and one style more than anything else
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:41 PM by Cadebrennus
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:05 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 9:14 PM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 6:16 PM
Ummm no it’s 37 a tick..

Dual Shadows
Level
50
To Hit Bonus
10
Defense Bonus
-10
Requirement
Positional: Front
Growth Rate
0.83000
Endurance
10
Bleeding, 13 , 40sec
Level
0
Damage
13
Damage Type
Body
Duration
40s
Frequency
4s
Range
500
Target
Enemy
Type
Style Bleeding

I'm glad you copied and pasted some description of Duel Shadows that's probably not updated.

Now play the game and check for yourself. It is 37 dmg/tick vs. SB with capped resists.

It's copied directly from the Phoenix character builder. Between that and the post above I'd say you have some explaining to do regarding your hyperbole.
Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:22 PM by daoklover
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:41 PM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:05 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 9:14 PM
Dual Shadows
Level
50
To Hit Bonus
10
Defense Bonus
-10
Requirement
Positional: Front
Growth Rate
0.83000
Endurance
10
Bleeding, 13 , 40sec
Level
0
Damage
13
Damage Type
Body
Duration
40s
Frequency
4s
Range
500
Target
Enemy
Type
Style Bleeding

I'm glad you copied and pasted some description of Duel Shadows that's probably not updated.

Now play the game and check for yourself. It is 37 dmg/tick vs. SB with capped resists.

It's copied directly from the Phoenix character builder. Between that and the post above I'd say you have some explaining to do regarding your hyperbole.

I don’t care where you copy and pasted it from. In game, once stacked it does 37 a tick.
Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:39 AM by Cadebrennus
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:22 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:41 PM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:05 PM
I'm glad you copied and pasted some description of Duel Shadows that's probably not updated.

Now play the game and check for yourself. It is 37 dmg/tick vs. SB with capped resists.

It's copied directly from the Phoenix character builder. Between that and the post above I'd say you have some explaining to do regarding your hyperbole.

I don’t care where you copy and pasted it from. In game, once stacked it does 37 a tick.

So what you're saying is, once stacked, it does what everyone else can do, regardless of realm or class? You really should read the patch notes.
Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:57 AM by daoklover
Cadebrennus wrote:
Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:39 AM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:22 PM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 10:41 PM
It's copied directly from the Phoenix character builder. Between that and the post above I'd say you have some explaining to do regarding your hyperbole.

I don’t care where you copy and pasted it from. In game, once stacked it does 37 a tick.

So what you're saying is, once stacked, it does what everyone else can do, regardless of realm or class? You really should read the patch notes.

You’re really bad at making points.

I’m merely pointing out what the current DS bleed tick is stacked. Keep going off on tangents, it’s entertaining.
Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:36 AM by Cadebrennus
daoklover wrote:
Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:57 AM
Cadebrennus wrote:
Wed 24 Jun 2020 4:39 AM
daoklover wrote:
Tue 23 Jun 2020 11:22 PM
I don’t care where you copy and pasted it from. In game, once stacked it does 37 a tick.

So what you're saying is, once stacked, it does what everyone else can do, regardless of realm or class? You really should read the patch notes.

You’re really bad at making points.

I’m merely pointing out what the current DS bleed tick is stacked. Keep going off on tangents, it’s entertaining.

"Which classes/lines take advantage of the bleed changes the best?"

This is the title of the thread. Take notes. I'm sure you have lots of crayons lying around that you can take notes with.
Wed 24 Jun 2020 6:40 AM by Noashakra
You can't use the stack value to say the bleed value is X... Because you need to pass the style 3 times to do that.
If you stack it 3 or 4 times, who cares...

I can stack also bleeds with the CS styles, but their values are not 36 because I need to pass 6 or 7 styles with bleeds to do that.
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