Friar solo weapon - Phoenix Freeshard

What weapon are usually used for friar? 3.3 with celerity proc? LT proc or the Sidi with heal proc better?

Sun 5 Jul 2020 11:28 AM by Blitze

Slower is better if u have haste proc up (which you will in most fights)
Fast staff (3-3.5spd) procs more heals from your healproc and is better against SMs/Wardens. Additionally, better for peels in 8man.

I would recommend having a fast and slow staff.

1st Main (slow) Staff:
Sidi 5.0spd 18%Heal proc is good, (except on assassins.) or
5.6spd 18%ablative is good, & best on stealth. or
5.5spd 15% LT proc is also good, best DPS.

2nd (fast) Staff:
3.3spd 18%Celerity proc or
3-3.5 crafted with DD or haste proc.

For a rich Friar - Go weaponless and change staff based on opponent or even mid fight.

For a poor Friar - Go with Sidi ablative or RoG LT proc slow staff and get a matched fast staff SCed with the same stats.

Sun 5 Jul 2020 7:24 PM by Hangel

Thanks bro! I have a LT MP 5.0 now and I think to buy the 3.3 with haste proc, think to use it while my celerity was down and switch to slower one

Tks again for the info

Fri 17 Jul 2020 5:13 PM by Sadra

I actually tested it a couple months ago and the proc doesn't change for faster staff. You will have the SAME amount of procs go off from a 5.0 and a 3.5 within a minute of attacks.

The test looked at 25 staff vs 39 staff, and tested a 5.5 player crafted staff, 5.0 sidi, and a 3.0 player crafted staff. The only thing that changed with the dps, which was higher (of course) with the slowest staff.

Sun 19 Jul 2020 7:13 PM by Centenario

Sadra wrote: ↑
Fri 17 Jul 2020 5:13 PM
I actually tested it a couple months ago and the proc doesn't change for faster staff. You will have the SAME amount of procs go off from a 5.0 and a 3.5 within a minute of attacks.

The test looked at 25 staff vs 39 staff, and tested a 5.5 player crafted staff, 5.0 sidi, and a 3.0 player crafted staff. The only thing that changed with the dps, which was higher (of course) with the slowest staff.

gruenesschaf wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Jun 2020 1:54 PM
Noashakra wrote: ↑
Thu 4 Jun 2020 11:05 AM
It doesn't work like this for weapon. Each proc as a base % that is then multiplied by the weapon speed.
Let's say the base proc % for a LT effect is 5% (I don't know the real value on phoenix)
on a 3.9 > 5*3.9 = 19.5% chance to proc per hit
on a 4.2 > 5*4.2 = 21% chance to proc per hit

at the cap 1.5s per swing, you hit 40 times per minutes (60/1.5), so with the 5% base proc chance your ppm will be 8.4 for a 4.2 speed (21%*40) and 7.8 for a 3.9 (19.5%*40).

Pretty much, however, the given proc chance is always for a weapon speed of 3.5. In the case of feather weapons with 18% it would be 18 / 3.5 * actual weapon speed to get the chance per hit.

so for a sidi 5.5 crafted or rog staff:
15/3.5*5.5=23.6% proc chance
For a sidi 5.0 staff:
18/3.5*5=25.7% proc chance
For 3.0 crafted or rog staff:
15/3.5*3=12.9% proc chance

Mon 20 Jul 2020 7:14 PM by Tereos

personally as friar staff spec i use 3 staffs, 5.6 (abla prc)and 5.0(heal proc)both bought with feathers and 1 crafted 3.0 with haste proc.

Tue 21 Jul 2020 10:08 AM by Hangel

Tereos wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Jul 2020 7:14 PM
personally as friar staff spec i use 3 staffs, 5.6 (abla prc)and 5.0(heal proc)both bought with feathers and 1 crafted 3.0 with haste proc.

LT is not better than heal proc? may be heal is lower but damage is better no? the crafted haste is same of the 3.3 feathers staff?

PS: How many quickness and MoA need to cap weapon speed?

Tue 21 Jul 2020 10:31 AM by labra

with +10Qui at creation, you'll need 75 Qui from gear and 93 from buffs to reach 238.
If I'm correct you'll need Aug Qui 3 for the 12 missing points (250 cap).

Can't help you about MoA, I don't remember this part :p

Tue 21 Jul 2020 3:06 PM by Tereos

Hangel wrote: ↑
Tue 21 Jul 2020 10:08 AM
Tereos wrote: ↑
Mon 20 Jul 2020 7:14 PM
personally as friar staff spec i use 3 staffs, 5.6 (abla prc)and 5.0(heal proc)both bought with feathers and 1 crafted 3.0 with haste proc.

LT is not better than heal proc? may be heal is lower but damage is better no? the crafted haste is same of the 3.3 feathers staff?

PS: How many quickness and MoA need to cap weapon speed?

my main is the 5.6 staff with abla(i don't rememeber the name), i can assure you that the dmag is really high, i hit leather for 370 (without crits)about every swing, when self haste is ended i switch on 5.0.
my 2cents

Tue 21 Jul 2020 3:23 PM by Hangel

For me main is 5.0 LT atm, than I switch to 3.3 haste proc when celerity is down. And I use a 3.0 LT too some time but I can look for a 5.5 LT than.